Bitcoin

[Orbital]

bitcoin zcela urcite neskonci nikdy, ten bude vecnej, co pojedou pocitace, tj. dokud se nevyhladime a mozna jeste dyl

historie je plna prikladu, kdy bylo zakazovany drzet / smenovat / operovat s tvrdsi menou nez domaci a byly za to i mnohem tvrdsi tresty... no svete div se ten zakaz se NIKDY nepoved a nakonec to byla ta normalni realita, co musela ustoupit tlaku trhu

druha vec je, ze tem represivnim slozkam se dari delat to, co by mel delat UOHS - oni vzdycky a vsude sestreli toho nejvetsiho a d se volna ruka trhu a inovacim

mtgox byl problem pro stabilitu meny, ten nebo ti, kdo eventuelne prijdou po nich, snad budou lepsi.. no a hlavne jako vzdycky v tyhle situaci kdy system uderi, se valej ohromny love na zemi a ceka to na to, az to sebere nekdo, kdo nema nasrano v gatich<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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[pivo]

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[Orbital]

zajimavy ze kurz nepada, ale objem sel dolu samozrejme hafo

jinak jak je receno v tom clanku co sem postnul, jde o konkurencni boj proti mtgoxu, od tech btc developeru, holt money talks hlavne ze se budem mit vsichni radi a BTC budou takovy slunickovy penize co vlastne nejsou penize <div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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[Re4DeR]

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[JIRKAHOMOLA]

Nejde mi do hlavy, ze je na ruznych burzach ruzna cena BTC/USD. Napriklad gox tech obchoduje cca 134-135/usd a bitstamp 130-131. To preci spekulanti muzou kupovat ve velkem na stampu a prodavat na goxu. Naklady spojene s presouvanim btc (usd) mezi burzami tak velke zase nejsou. V minulosti (po padu btc z 250 na 60 a naslednem stoupani) jsem videl rozdily i kolem 10usd na ruznych burzach.

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[Orbital]

jak sem na to koukal tak v likvidite, ale treba se mylim

proste na tech jinych burzach je velmi mala

ale na druhou stranu nikdo tyhle interexchange arby nebude umet lip nez arber s letitou praxi, takze proc to nezkusit no... jen proste co sem zbezne koukal na tu likviditu, tak to nebylo nic moc<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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[JIRKAHOMOLA]

jak sem na to koukal tak v likvidite, ale treba se mylim

proste na tech jinych burzach je velmi mala

ale na druhou stranu nikdo tyhle interexchange arby nebude umet lip nez arber s letitou praxi, takze proc to nezkusit no... jen proste co sem zbezne koukal na tu likviditu, tak to nebylo nic moc

tak likvidita je ok, prevod mezi burzami je taky uplne v klidu. Problem je pri vkladu (mely mi byt nauctovany 2% poplatku, ale strhli si 6%) a hlavne pri vyberu. Uz druhy mesic cekam na vyber z podelanyho Goxu (international wire transfer). Jak odtamtud vybirate vy?<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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[Orbital]

tak likvidita je ok, prevod mezi burzami je taky uplne v klidu. Problem je pri vkladu (mely mi byt nauctovany 2% poplatku, ale strhli si 6%) a hlavne pri vyberu. Uz druhy mesic cekam na vyber z podelanyho Goxu (international wire transfer). Jak odtamtud vybirate vy?

ten fee mel mtgox?
to je hrozne vtipny jak btc na ty middle class geek urovni bojuje proti poplatkum a za rychlost transakci a vypada to jak pises ale ono to jinak nejde v tech zacatcih asi<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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[JIRKAHOMOLA]

ten fee mel mtgox?
to je hrozne vtipny jak btc na ty middle class geek urovni bojuje proti poplatkum a za rychlost transakci a vypada to jak pises ale ono to jinak nejde v tech zacatcih asi

vkladal jsem na bitstamp, ale kdo nauctoval fee je fakt tezko rict. Na bitstampu mi tvrdili, ze si strhli 2%. Banka mela strhnout podle ceniku 2Eura, coz je nic. Tak z goxu muzu jeste vybrat SEPA platbou (ale tam by byla konverze USD--->EURO)<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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[holden64]

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[Orbital]

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[elmagico72]

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[bflmpsvz]

já teda nevybíral přímo z mtgox, ale z btc-e, který má už od včerejška stránky nějak mimo a vybíral jsem to docela složitě ... btc-e -> okpay pak z okpay přes ty exchangery na paypal ... celkem to bylo asi za 7-9% ale došlo to za dva dny.. jinak z toho btc-e se dalo i na mb, neteller apod. tam ty procenta ale byly daleko vyšší (na okpay 1% na mb např. i 11%) a taky to bylo jen pro větší sumy (myslím od tisíců usd a výš)... jinak tomu mtgoxu bych asi jako jedinýmu věřil a jinam bych už pro příště nelezl.. já dřív používal i polskej btc24, ten je ale pokud přesně vím tak zhruba od dubna mimo kvůli úřadům (co bitcoiny vyletěli na 200€/unit)...<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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[P998]

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[Orbital]

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