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Jo? Ale beteoto mi dalo limit po 2 sazkach v prumeru 150 dolaru, to je normalni?? :?<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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U BWgroup naprosto 8)<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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A gdo tam ted pak sazi. Duchodkyne petikorunu na spartu?
Ale jo..sou to koxxti ale vedej jak z lidi vytahnout prachy. Delaj to dobre :?<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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Prve jsem dostal limit na Nine. Nedavno Betoto. Na Betandwin a Sportingbet ani nemluvim (vyhry mi nechali). VIP totez, SIA limit 200USD... Asi si zacnu delat druhy ucty na kamose :evil: :evil:

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OMG. kolik tam sázíš? Já sázím tak za 200-500KČ anepřipadá mi to málo. ?ádný omezení jsem nedostal.<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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No vestinou sazim vic nez ty o neco... ale v dolarech :lol: :lol: :lol:<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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No vestinou sazim vic nez ty o neco... ale v dolarech :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Já mám limit na Bet365.com. Moc jsem to nepochopil protože tam jsem teda rozhodně peníze spíš nechával!<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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Já taky :lol:<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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Je mozny nejak v kratkosti shrnout zakladni duvody zavadeni limitu od SK ( samozrejme velke vyhry nepocitaje ... :) )??
Pripadne jestli existuje nejaky obdobny postup od netovych SK v zavadeni limitu ??<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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Jedinej duvod je, ze kdyz vyhravas, tak se jim to nelibi, protoze oni si zalozili firmu a chteji brat penize z ni a ne opacne :lol:
Postup je takovej, ze jednoho dne chces vsadit a zjistit ze ti to povoli jen velmi malou castku.
Limity jsou samozrejme od zacatku, obvykle v radu tisicu dolaru az po destititice, ale tyhle limity jsou mineny limity ponizeny na nekolik procent puvodnich.
Obvykle se ani nenamahaji ti napsat e-mail.
Sazkovky ani tak neomezej po velkych vyhrach (ale taky) jako spis po vyhodnoceni sazkarova profilu, tj. jestli jeho - rekneme jednotkova uspesnost - je pozitivni.
Myslim ze po ako sazkach nikdo limit nedostne ani na Bet365.
Nejrizikovejsi sazka po ktery muze nastat limit je tzv. "steam" sazka na kurz, ktery se par vterin pote zmeni, protoze napr dojde ke zraneni hrace a trh tu informaci prave vstrebava. Dlouhodobe takove sazky od hrace prijimaji jen profisazkovky a i ty pak mohou limit do jiste miry ponizit (ale ne likvidacnim zpusobem).
A uplne nejhorsi je sazet na viditelne spatny kurzy, trebas prohozeny favorit a dog. Takova sazka vetsinou skonci zrusenim (void) a limitem, nebo i vyhozenim ze sazkovky. Pokud takovou sazku uvidite, je lepsi napsat jim e-mail a casto vam sazkovka za to da extra bonus (10-30 USD), alespon je to zvykem u tech nejlepsich. To nejhorsi co muzete udelat je... vsadit ji.<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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ale pokud budes sazet v radech desitek az stovek dolaru, tak krome nejakych extremu jako betandwin a Bet3.65 by nemel byt problem. Sazkovka muze zavyst limit, ale zaplatit musi vzdycky.<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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orbi to bylo jako mysleno,ze chytim (treba na Expektu ) nejakej vyssi kurz na argentinskou nebo chilskou ligu a oni mi po zapase oznami ,ze mi tu sazku zrusili ??!?!?<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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zhruba tak, ale tohle slusna sazkovka nemuze delat (globet tohle zrovna ale tusim dela, dalsi proslavena SK s timhle je sportingbet)
vsechny maji klauzuli, ze muzou zrusit sazku, pokud je kurz "evidentne" mimo, treba pri preklepu, nebo trebas kdyz zadaji spatnej handicap
kazdopadne void po zapase si dovolej jen ty velmi spatny (u expektu nehrozi)
void pred zapasem obcas byva prave pri preklepu...trebas misto 1.18 je 1.8 atd...
ale pokud maji napr. 1.85 a jinde je 1.75 tak by nemelo nic hrozit, naopak takova sazka je valuebet a vyplati se ji sazet
kazdopadne pokud je sazka uznana a zapas zacal, mela by platit vzdy, pokud ji zrusej meli by do zacatku zapasu, aby hrac nic neriskoval<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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No tak jsi me trochu uklidnil :P protoze to bych mel limit natotata ...kolik tak byva hranice toho limitu ??<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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Pokud myslis puvodni nesnizenej limit tak dobry sazkovky ho maji vetsinou uvedeny na strankach (napr. 10bet zde http://10bet.com/10BetClient/InfoCenter ... .aspx?id=3) nebo ho mas jako na Pinnacle vzdycky uvedenej primo u kazdy sazkovy prilezitosti. Vzdy se lisi se u ruznejch sportu, hlavni evropsky fotbalovy ligy a americky sporty maji limity nejvyssi...
Pokud se bavime o expektu tak ten ma takovej specialni system, kdy na nektery sazky ti nabidne, ze vezme urcitou castku a urcitou vezme na posouzeni a zhruba do 2 minut ti daji vedet jestli ti vzali sazku nad limit.<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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predpokladam ze se to posuzovani tyka castek od 1K $ vyse :wink:
ne ze bych chtel hned ze startu rozhazovat miliony ,ale dopracovat se do radu nekolika stovek $ na jednu sazku by mi rozhodne nevadilo :P<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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No je neuveritelny ze expekt bere sazky za hodne set bez posouzeni na obskurni tenisovy zapasy, ale trebas u americkejch sportu posuzujou uz od cca 30 USD u me.. ale je to fakt okamzik...
moc tam nesazim, taky jsem tam daval tusim naky O/U na barcelonu a bez posouzeni vzali cca 250, ale vetsinou to vezmou vsechno pres limit - me teda vzali zatim vse a ostatni referujou ze s tim v 99% pripadu nemaji taky problem.
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Svoj prvy limit som dostal na Betoto. Myslim, ze max. som tam raz vsadil 350EUR /viac uz neslo/. Po nejakom case, mozno po prvom vybere ma obmedzili na stale pouzitelnych 100EUR. Po dalsich par sazkach som bol znova v pluse, nasledoval dasli vyber. a obmedzenie max. na 5EUR. No a to je uz o nicom limit.

I tak som podal par sazok za tych 5EUR. Ani to sa im nepacilo, Aby sa ma zbavili, jedneho dna mi neslo podat sazku vobec. Ked som sa o to pokusil, bola tam hlaska, ze som z krajiny, kde su nepovolene internet sazky, alebo nieco podobne. Vybral som i ten zvysok penazi, co som tam mal a kaslem na nich.

V skupine BWin / kedysi BaW / som mal od zaciatku limit 50USD.
Ked som este mal v Betoto limit 100EUR, vyuzival som paralelne sazky. Vsadil som tu istu sazku v Betoto a hned nato i v BaW. Samozrejme vacsinou za max. Mozno mi limit znizia, este som zatial neurobil vyber?

Betoto a BWin, sice patria do jedne skupiny, ale kurzy nemusia mat vzdy totozne. Betoto zvykne viac ?zaspat? s kurzami. Raz sa mi dokonca stalo, ze medzi Betoto a BaW bola u jednej udalosti na U-O mala arbitraz /1.6-2.7/. Sice mala, ale bola. A to by sa nemalo stavat?

Druha sazkova, kde mi dali limit bola Bet365. Zhruba pol roka fungovalo vsetko bez problemov. Odhadol som, ze mi znizili limit cca 25x. Teraz su ako tak pouzitelne limity len vo fotbal premier ligach. V Bet365 som bohuzial nenasiel inu moznost vyberu na MB ako im zavolat na ich customer servis. A to je dost otravne, hlavne ak neviem hovorit anglicky ?

Chapem, ak limit znizia po plusovej bilancii, co bol u Bet365 moj pripad. Ale nechapem, ak ho znizia ak som niekde v minuse. Je predsa v zaujme sazkovej, aby som tam nechal co najviac penazi. Aby bolo jasne, su sazkove, kde som i minuse, hned ich spomeniem.

Napr. skupina Sportingbet. Do skupiny patri viac sazkoviek. Okrem Sportingbet som registrovany tiez u Betuk a Sportingodds. Kurzy maju totozne a menia ich synchronne naraz. To som vyuzival na paralelne sazky. Rychlost zmeny kurzu po podani takejto sazky som potom meral v sek. Myslim, ze vzdy im to trvalo viac ako 10sek. Preto technika podavania sazok musi byt taka, sa to stihlo v tomto limite. :-D

U skupiny Sportingbet su na zaciatku slusne stake limity. Znizenie limitov prebieha v 2 krokoch. Najprv ho znizia 4x. To je este stale v pohode. Trebars tam, kde som mal predtym limit 1800USD je po znizeni 450USD. Po nejakom case mi aj tento limit znizili dalsich 25x. Cize oproti povodnemu limitu 100x.

Potom sa uz tazko robia arbitraze. Tych 25x mi znizili po MS vo futbale, ked som dal tusim 600USD, ze nejaky tym neda gol. A limit na sazku bol okolo 800USD. A podobne mi znizili limity aj v Betuk a Sportingodds. Mam pocit, ze ich nastvali prave paralelne sazky?
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No ze te limitujou za to ze sazis na sesterskejch sazkovkach totez, nebo proti sobe...neni divu.

A ze te limitujou za to, ze sazis na kurzy ktery maji hodnotu, to taky neni divu. Sazkovky limituji jak vyherce, tak i ty co se chovaji jakkoli podezrele, sazi na spravne kurzy, prilis vybiraji a vkladaji apod no...<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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je spousta duvodu kdy davaj limity a obecne se tomu clovek u rekreacnich sazkovek nevyhne... tak urcite zasadni vec, ktere zpusobi limity, je mit ziskovost po velkem poctu sazek, potom treba velke vklady blizici se puvodnim limitum na "dobre" sazky, sazeni na podezrele miniligy, casty vyber penez, "podezrele" ucty atd. sazeni u rekreacnich sazkovek proste neni moc perspektivni, bohuzel ted je docela nejista doba a nevim, jestli se ma cenu preorientovat na profi sazkovky...<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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jinak ja nechapu jednu vec, proc nedaj treba aspon nejaky rozumny ferovy limity... nemusi to byt tisice, ale par stovek jim prece neublizi... takhle s limitem 40 euro apod. cloveka jen nastvou a riskujou, ze bude sazet pres nekoho jineho, zaplati vsechny bonusy znova a jeste je nebude setrit :lol:<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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Skybet ma obcas uletene kurzy, co som vyuzival, dokial sa dalo. Zo zaciatku som vsadzal okolo 50-150USD solovky, vsetko kurzy 3,4,5 a viac. Prvych 8-10 sazok som prehral. Sazky som postupne zvysoval, na 200-400USD, pritom som i tak siel len na 1/3 ich limitov. Nevzdaval som sa a bol som zvedavy, kedy sa karta otoci.

V jednom dni, tusim pocas FAcup som podal 3 sazky a vsetky vysli. V tom dni som vyhral spat vsetky predchadzajuce vklady a zrazu som bol u nich dokonca v pluse. /Skoda, ze boli podane len solo, ale neva/.
No a od toho dna mi znizili limit brutalne. 100x. Napr. na Eng. premier lig sa dalo predtym vsadit cca 3900USD. Po znizeni len 39. Stake limity su samozrejme zavisle i od kurzu, podobne ako v Bet365.

Zhrnute a podciarknute: Skybet odporucam, s vyberom /2x v mojom pripade// nikdy nerobili problem.
Bohuzial su pouzitelni len ak ponechaju povodne limity.
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Stake limity su samozrejme zavisle i od kurzu, podobne ako v Bet365.

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rekl bych ze vsechny limity jsou zavisle od kurzu. Nikdo nedava limity na sazku "to risk", ale kazdy dava "to win", coz ma i logiku. Davat limit 50 euro "to risk" na Fedexe s 1.01... ani omylem...

Btw. i ja sazim timhle americkym stylem, obvykle... tzn sazka 500 neni 500 ale 550 s kurzem -110 nebo 525 s -105, 575 -115, 1000 s -200 atd.<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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