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Zdravim,
at koukam jak koukam, nemuzu u pinnacle najit sazku vyhra nebo remiza....takovou tu klasickou dvojitou sanci. Musim to u nich vsadit jakoby 2 sazky na vyhru a remizu a sam si spocitat podil dle kurzu nebo to maji nekde schovane? Hledal jsem to tady pod dvojita sance, vyhra prohra a nic jsem nenasel.
Take me tam zarazi jak malo maji moznosti na over/under pri fotbale. Vetisnou maji v nabidce jen jednu variantu, treba 2,5....ale u stejneho zapasu uz nejde vybrat treba 1,5 nebo 3,5 jen ty kombinace 2 a 2,5 a podobne. Je to opet nekde schovane nebo tohle proste pinna nenabizi? Prijde mi to hodne osekane, oproti ostatnim sazkovkam. Tak pevne verim, ze jsem jenom nekde neco prehledl.
Diky za radu nebo odkaz kde se doctu neco o tom jak to tam najit.
Konkretne bych treba dnes chtel vsadit kombinaci kombi (Výhra AC Milan nebo remíza)+(Man.City vs. Real padne vice jak 2,5) ale u pinny to v kombi proste neni v nabidce. Pujde tam tohle nejak dat, nebo musim jinde?<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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Pinna je skutečně osekanější a moc kombíků si tak nevsadíš. Každopádně po přihlášení bys těch možností měl vidět víc. Dvojitou sázku máš jako handicap +0.5.<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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Prihlasenej jsem, ale prave tu kombinaci co jsem psal asi nesestavim protoze v kombiku nabizi sazku u Man. City pouze nad 3 nebo pod 3 :(
Navic asi nechapu rozdil mezi nad 3 a nad 3.5.....dyt logicky nad 3 znamena, ze vyhra je v pripade 4 a vice golu. A nad 3.5 je take vyhra pri 4 a vice, nebo ne?<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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Ne, tu kombinaci skutecne nesestavis. Nad 3 znamena, ze pokud padnou presne tri, tak se sazka vraci.<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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znova Overcome ? :)

http://www.pinnaclesports.com/help/bets-offered

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muzu ujistit, ze Overcome nejsem, koneckoncu si to muzete overit dle IP :)
Jsem jenom dalsi lama, co se to trochu uci, a dle vse tady jsem se docetl, ze pinna je supr sazkovka, akorat jsem ji zatim tak uplne nepochopil, az na to, ze ma opravdu skvely kurzy, mi prijde hodne osekana. Ale hlavne se snazim hledat arby mezi Pinnacle a Bwin nebo sportingbet, kde mam dalsi ucty.<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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Kdyz ses docet jak je pinna supr, proc si tedy alespon neprectes jejich stranky driv nezli tam zacnes sazet ? V jejich helpu najdes vse na co ses tady ptal. :-)<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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Původně odeslal lordizual

Prihlasenej jsem, ale prave tu kombinaci co jsem psal asi nesestavim protoze v kombiku nabizi sazku u Man. City pouze nad 3 nebo pod 3 :(
Navic asi nechapu rozdil mezi nad 3 a nad 3.5.....dyt logicky nad 3 znamena, ze vyhra je v pripade 4 a vice golu. A nad 3.5 je take vyhra pri 4 a vice, nebo ne?

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http://sazkar.net/forum/dotazy-novac...andicapy-t9358 <--- tohle si procte hlavne ten post od AMZ, je to o asijskejch HCP, ale princip stejnej a to ses zatim nedostal k tem pulenym HCP

dale si prostuduj, co je push (vsichni tu rikaji dokola void a ja uz to vzdavam dementovat)

overcome si uz dalsi identitu neudela v zivote, jestli jo, je to patrik osobne<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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Původně odeslal wade

Kdyz ses docet jak je pinna supr, proc si tedy alespon neprectes jejich stranky driv nezli tam zacnes sazet ? V jejich helpu najdes vse na co ses tady ptal. :-)

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ale zase musite uznat ze je to konecne aspon trochu ok dotaz.
Taky se nekdy treba zeptam na neco co je v manualu protoze interpretovany informace treba lip pochopim.<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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dotaz je to ok, opakuje se jen cca jednou za pul roku a lamal si nad tim hlavu asi kazdej zacinajici sazkar<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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Diky Orbitale, zes me z fleku neposlal do hajzlu :D Co jsem to tady tak prochazel, tak jsem to i cekal :)
Push jsem se docetl jiz drive co je. Ale nejak jsem nechapal ty sazky. Kazdopadne diky za post, ty handicapy rozhodne nastuduju, pac je to pro me zatim spanelska vesnice. Jsem byl zvikli na Bwin, a tam je to uvedeno vse jak pro blbce, takze z tohodle jsem zatim porad zmateny. I kdyz nastesti, za ten tyden co to tady studuju, jsem aspon zaznamenal urcity pokrok, tak snad uz budou pristi dotazy opet trochu rozumnejsi :)
Myslim, ze pro zatim muzes tohle klidne zamknout. Nebo presunout do sekce pinnacle sports, i kdyz dle urovne dotazu se to hodi spis zde :)<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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kazdy zacinajici sazkar se snazi hledat arby rekre-Pinn a takto si mysli, ze je to nejlepsi zpusob, jak zacit, protoze se to docetl na sazkari(ci nekde jinde) - funguje to, ale je to neefektivni<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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to je dobrej vykrik do tmy; zajimavy jestli to tak vyznelo
ale kazdej zacinajici sazkar si musi uvedomit, ze musi HEDZOVAT, protoze ten downstrike ceka na kazdyho a zacinajici sazkar z definice na nej nema bank

pokud jede zacinajici sazkar bez hedze, tak je to neefektivni, pokud jede tak, aby nekrachl s limitni jistotou, protoze musi sazet za prilis malo; obecne sazkar, co nejede na max, ale ma bank na sazeni treba 1/3 maxu, muze s klidnym svedomim odevzdat pulku value na hedzi, protoze jeho prinos ze sazky bude mnohem vetsi.... nejne pulku, on muze a mel by odevzdat mnohem vic, prave proto, ze si kupuje pojisteni svyho banku

vezmeme typickou rekre sazkovku bwin: nevim za kolik bere, ale tipuju 200E urcite; sazet za 200E znamena mit bank v radech desitek tisic euro... to moc zacinajicich sazkaru nema<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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moc jsem nepochopil co se snazis vysvetlit, ale nechtel jsem rict, ze nema sazet arby ci nehedzovat
ale ze hlediska casu travit ho vetsinu aktualizovanim nabidek a cekanim na arb mezi 2-3 SK je neefektivni - ztrata casu
hledanim toho arbu stravi hodinu dve, vsadi max. 3 arby a na vic nema bank a casto ani arb nenajde, protoze jsou arberi co maj soft a jsou zkratka rychlejsi
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Musel by mít dost rozumu a hlavně edge. Pochybuju, že tohle moc začínajcícíh sázkařů má.
Pokud bys chtěl sázet třeba těch 200E (cca 1.75-2.30), tak se to dá klidně s bankem 5k, ale na to už je třeba mít hodně zkušeností.
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200 € s bankom 5k je kaskadérčina. Máš k dispozícii 25u a to je šialenstvo. Pri cca 1.75-2.30 chytiť šnúru 14x KO je možné kedykoľvek a hrabať sa z toho von je ako posunúť sa dozadu o svetelný rok<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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hledanim arbu nestravi hodinu dve; hledanim prvniho spravneho arbu stravi treba mesic
vic uz nic, asi jsi ten mesic netravil :)

jinak mike presne jak pise iceland s 5K bankem a 200 E sazkou, tj. 4% flat bettingem, se prezit neda a je uplne jedno jestli mas edge na kurzu 0.01 nebo 0.15

no delejte si to jak chcete, samozrejme; pak se nedivte, ja sam rad zaviram vetsinu sazek porad; od zacatku sezony jsem na jednom pinnacle uctu neco jako -50 NORMOVANYCH jednotek, tj. bankrot pri 2% flat bettingu; jasne edge tam neni jako na bwinu, ale zas to neni az takovej extrem a sazkar musi pocitat s extremama, pokud jde o bank<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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