Discussion KHL 2011

Zkusim zalozit specialni tema pro KHL, po vzoru NHL. Treba se to ujme. I tady se najdou zajimave veci. A snad se to nebude plest s NHL diskuzi.

Celjabinsk - Chabarovsk CHA +0 2.42
Niznij Niznekamsk - Riga Over 5.5 2.08<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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ano, v KHL je velmi vela zaujimavych veci a trh si tieto zaujimave veci vobec nevsima. take zjavenie ako je Amur este stale nie su schopni pobrat a stale vidia len osvedcene muzstva ako je Ufa, Omsk, Petrohrad, Metalurg... uz minulu sezonu som tu niekde myslim pisal, ze KHL sa strasne vyrovnava a tuto sezonu su vpredu muzstva, ktore minule sezony nemali najmensiu sancu preniknut do vyradovacich bojov. velka vyhoda je aj to, ze KHL nema taky cveng ako NHL a uz ked "sirsi trh" nejake muzstvo pozna, tak su to prave Ufa, Omsk, Kazan... no a prave z tohto sa da velmi tazit, aspon zatial :) i to bol dovod preco som chcel preniknut do AHL, ale od toho som zatial dal ruky prec... :)<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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KHL je taky dobra na sazeni, sazim ju docela dost, ale porad mi tam chybijou naky stranky jako v NHL kde by byli podrobny statistiky hracu, lajny, atd... nevite nekdo o necem? Chtel bych tam zacit sazet aj strelce, ale na to bych potreboval naky takovyhle veci... klidne muzou byt i v rustine<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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ja cerpam z oficialnych stranok:

http://www.khl.ru/

je to podobne spracovane ako nhl.com chce to ale poznat aspon trocha azbuku :)<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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azbuku umim, ale ty stranky sou takovy na hovno. lajny sem tam nikde nenasel a takovy pekny statistiky jak v NHL kde to mas vsechno rozepsany zapas po zapasu sem nenasel ty jo?<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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podrobne statistiky hracov su, v hornej casti kde su rozpisane jednotlive zapasy napr. zajtrajsi Cechov v. Kazan kliknes napr. Kazan a tam najdes statistiky. co sa tyka lajny, to netusim, mozno to tam niekde bude, ale vsimol som si, ze na livesport.cz sa objavuju lajny, predtym to bolo len vo futbale, ale neviem kedy to zverejnuju, nevsimol som si ci je to s casovym predstihom, alebo az v priebehu zapasu. strelcov hram zatial len nhl.<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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http://www.khl.ru/stat/players/202/all/3735/

myslis tohle? Tam sou statistiky hraca za celou sezonu, ja bych chtel aby to bylo rozepsany po 1 zapase jako na nhl.com jestli vis jak to tam je. A taky sem si vsimnul, ze na livesportu sou lajny aj treba extraligy. Ale taky neivm jeslti to tam je uz pres zapasem nebo az po nem :oops:<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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Trochu odbočím od tématu, ale viděli jste někde statistiky pro SVK ligu? Vypadá to, že tam žádné statistiky nevedou :D<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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taky si myslim, ze to asi uplne podrobne jako v NHL nevedou, ale je to skoda :(<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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Ty statistiky ke každýmu zápasu tam jsou, všechno důležitý najdeš tady, stačí jen rozkliknout konkrétní zápas...

http://www.khl.ru/calendar/<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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Slovensko:
http://www.szlh.sk/statistiky/c-080400_l-311<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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Citace:

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Původně odeslal Maribor

Ty statistiky ke každýmu zápasu tam jsou, všechno důležitý najdeš tady, stačí jen rozkliknout konkrétní zápas...

http://www.khl.ru/calendar/

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A jo, nasem sem to tam, ale jen u zapasu ktery skoncili remizou. U tech kde byla remiza muzes rozkliknout protokol a tam to je, ale u tech ostatnich mi to rozkliknout nejde :cry:<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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Slovensko:
http://www.szlh.sk/statistiky/c-080400_l-311

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Díky za odkaz, vypadá to, že web svazu je jediný, kde ty statistiky jsou. Je to celkem nezvyk, protože u nás nejsou na ČSLH, ale na hokej.cz<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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Slovensko:
http://www.szlh.sk/statistiky/c-080400_l-311

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Zkusim to vratit zpet ke KHL.

Dnes me zaujal zapas Niznekamsk - Celjabinsk, hraju Niznekamsk pk 2.20 a over 5.5 2.26.

Na dalsi evropske ligy bychom mohli myslim zalozit jinou diskuzi. Obcas me zaujme nejaky zapas v ceske, finske, svedske lize. Priste to zkusim nekam dat. Jine ligy uz nestiham sledovat - slovensko, svycary, rakousko, to nevsazim.<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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mna dnes zaujal kurz ML 3.450 na blaznov z Cechova, trocha mi unika dovod na tak vysoky kurz u domacich, len skoda ze handicap je vypisany na +1 Cechov v kurze 1.662 a ja s takym kurzom nepracujem, proto som to flakol rovno na 1.<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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Cechov zatim vypada dobre, na ne byvaji casto zbytecne vysoky kurzy, ti uz mi parkrat pekne vydelali, skoda, ze sem je nehral aj dneska :oops:

Pete - jj, kdyztak neco zaloz vetsina co sazime hokej tak sazime krome NHL a KHL spoustu dalsich lig, aspon tam o nich trochu pokecame 8)<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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Tak over na Niznekamsk - Celjabinsk dopadl pekne, 1 na Niznekamsk uz horsi, vysledek 2:8 je celkem mazec :lol: .

Sequel: Gratulace - Cechov i ten over. Ja Cechov nehraju, mam je na black listu, vzdycky, kdyz na ne dam, tak bud shori jako papir nebo prinejlepsim remizuji a ty handicapy +1 a vyssi nevsazim. Moje skoda. Ja na ne proste nemam nervy, jako dneska - 4:0, 4:4, 6:4. Jsou to proste magori, vubec nevim, co od nich cekat.<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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ani ja tych blaznov nehravam, ale vypisat kurz cez 3.4 na domaceho doga, ktory posledne 3 domace zapasy vyhral a vezie sa tak trocha na vlne, tak som to tam dat musel, ak by handicap bol inak vypisany, drzal by som sa pri zemi... zapas som live nevidel, nesledoval som ani priebeh nastastie, inak by som asi prehryzol LAN kabel :)<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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Sequel :salute:<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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Sequel: Pěkné 2 valuebety. Na ten Čechov to bylo evidentní, bohužel jsem nezahrál. Píšu to pouze proto, že plno valuebetů nechám plavat, protože se mi nelíbí jak jsou vypsané hranice a není možné si jako ve fotbale posunout. Tady konkrétně +1 v tom kurzu o ničem a čistá 1 tam jsem se právě obával i remízy. Kdyby šlo zahrát +0.5 nebo pk, tak jsem hrál taky. Šlo by to samozřejmě zahrát u jiné sázkovky, ale z časovejch důvodů hraju pouze u jedné. To jsem si jenom tak postěžoval, co mě občas trápí, tenhle zápas jsem měl taky v hledáčku, tak ať se daří :)<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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Vse, co napsal Emir, muzu podepsat. Plati to presne i za me.

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gratulacia :bounce: over som isiel tiez :)

remizu si v hokeji netrufam, robil som v minulosti par experimentov, ale nedopadlo to nikdy dobre, tak od toho davam ruky prec 8) , ale pekna praca :wink:<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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KHL sleduju jen tak zbezne, ale dnes me zaujal Cehov v Popradu, podle vysledku lepsi aktualni forma bijcu z Chechova, kteri snad zacali hrat hokej misto jinych bojovych sportu. A protoze radeji strelce nez vysledky, hned me zaujaly vypsane kurzy Tipace na trojici Panarin 4, Tochitskyi 5 a Tarnaski 6. Dva frajeri z prvni lajny, posledne jmenovany ze druhe. Hraji i PP, Cechov taha snuru peti zapasu vyher v rade a zminovana trojice si shodne pripsala po dvou golech. Musim zkusit, snad moje nakouknuti do KHL neskonci fiaskem :wink:<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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Strelce tam moc nedavam, protoze sem este porad nenasel naky poradny statistiky a neco kde sou napsany lajny, tak kdybys mi rekl kdes to nasel ty tak bych byl rad. :D Jinak dneska davam chechov a este sem daval astanu, ktera dala na 3:2 29 vterin pred koncem, takze ta mi vysla paradne, tak su zvedavy este na mou dnesni druhou sazku z teto ligy.... 8)<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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No Panarin daval hned ze startu, takze mirny vyvar, ale myslel jsem, ze jeste aspon jeden tam padne...
Jinak Serife azbuku uz si nepamatuju, takze ty sestavy jspou polepene z ruznych ceskych stranek, vysledky jsou vsude, nejake hlubsi stats u KHL jsem nestudoval, byla to spis pocitovka.<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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Posli pls odkazy. ja mam azbuku naucenou cerstve, takze pohoda, ale na tech jejich stranakch nemuzu najit to co presne hledam i kdyz tady kdosi rikal, ze to tam je. Jinak sem si dovolil od tebe vsechny 3 strelce opsat, protoze jak sem videl ja ty kurzy tipac prestrelil tak sem nemohl jinak. 8) Taky sem myslel, ze vysel jen ten jeden, ale po prihlaseni na tipac sem byl mile prekvapeny, protoze vysel aj tochitski. Na livesportu to meli blbe napsany, nejspis ses dival taky tam. Tak sem se mrknul do oficialniho zapisu na khl.ru a fakt daval tochitski, oni si ho spletli s obrancem troschinskim. Jestli sem to dobre vycetl, protoze ty preklady sou fakt na picu. Nechapu proc se treba č prepisuje jako ch, j se tam kolikrat nepise vubec, atd... je v tom akorad bordel... takze jestli je ten co se spravne menuje točickij ten co sme ho sazeli pod prekladem tochitski tak nam to tipac vyhodnotil dobre, kdyztak zazpominej na azbuku a mrkni sam, ale myslim, ze je to vyhodnoceny v poradku a akorad si to spletl livesport: http://text.khl.ru/text/31150.html<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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Zdar Serife, nemam zadne zajimave odkazy, soupisky mam napsane z livesportu, goly pisou na lize cezetku, obcas je zminka na hokejportalu...byl jsem ted cely den bez netu, mels pravdu a moc prijemne prekvapeni, zapocitali mi i Nikitu, takze nakonec prvni letosni KHL bet parada :D Jinak tu azbuku uz asi nerozchodim, skoda, bylo by fajn mit takovou denni nahrazku NHL.<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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Skoda, ze si tu azbuku uz nedavas, tady ty borce z cechova sem od tebe opsal dobre :D Cechov mi nevysel tak aspon ti strelci od tebe mi neco vydelali 8)<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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Uz sem nasel ty statistiky tak kdyz nekdo budete chtit poradit kde to je tak vam to rad reknu :D ale pisu proto, ze si nejsu jisty co tam znamenaji nektery veci:

ШР - Шайбы, забитые в равенстве,
ШБ - Шайбы, забитые в большинстве
ШМ - Шайбы, забитые в меньшинстве

ШР = goly streleny kdyz se hraje 5 na 5
ШБ = goly vstreleny v presilovce
ШМ = goly vstreleny v oslabeni

Je to tak? asi jo ze?<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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jj, jen bych doplnil, že to nemusí být nutně 5 na 5, ale i 4 na 4 a teoreticky i 3 na 3 (i když myslím, že 3 na 3 jsem už někde viděl, ale gól tehdy tuším nepadl)<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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Nak tady nepisem, tak to zkusim zase rozbehnout :-D Za 15 minut hraje riga, tak tam zkusim 2 borce z jejich prvni lajny. Reglihs za kurz 4 v chanci a Karsums za 3,1 ve fortune. Potom se mi zdal zajimavy Berdnikov ze spartaku, ktery nedavno prestoupil z cechova, ale ten neni vypsany...<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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Toš Karsums vysel, ale skoda toho Redlihse, ten daval 3 asistence. Celkem me prekvapilo, ze daval 2 goly sprukts sem myslel, ze ten bude mit spis asistence a goly bude davat redlihs, ale tak dobry, ze vysel aspon 1...<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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Varnakov z torpeda minuly zapas nejvetsi cas na lede a 9 strel. To si ho musim v tipacu za kurz 4,5 zkusit, jednou tu serii zapasu kdy nemuze dat gol musi zlomit :-D<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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