Bitcoin

[Orbital]

Kdyz to vezmu nejak fundamentalne, kde se to MUSI zastavit, tak tehdy, kdy se stane 1 z 2 veci:
1. naklady na prevod BTC budou v dolarovym vyjadreni vyssi nez naklady na prevod penez v mezibankovnim styku (mozna diky anonymite muzou byt i vyssi)
2. Valuace BTC bude nekde na urovni CELOSVETOVYHO agregatu m0 nebo tak o plus minus 1-2 rady vedle

I kdyby mela byt valuace tech 21 mega future BTC 100x nizsi nez celosvetovej agregat m0, tak jsou to sileny prachy.

Nechce se mi to moc pocitat, ale rekneme ze na zaklade tohohle Struktura peněz v oběhu podle stavu ke dni 31.12.2012 - Česká národní banka je v cesku nejakych 400 miliard CZK hard penez (ok fiat whatever ), tj. 20 giga usd, ceska ekonomika muze bejt tak 0.3% svetovyho HDP, tj. celosvetove muze byt 6 bilionu USD v hard cash m0, co ma srovnani s BTC, rekneme ze budem brat jen tu setinu, to je 60 miliard USD

60 miliard / 20 milionu USD = 3000/1 (az 300K/1), tak to je dobry, tisicinasobek z toho uz clovek neudela... pisu jak mi mysl jela, nechce se mi to editovat, doufam ze nejsem nekde o 3 rady mimo

takze myslim, ze pokud se nezhoruti svetovy hospodarstvi, tak celkem s jistotou se da rict, ze na 500k usd/1 BTC neuvidime<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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[Orbital]

Kdyz to vezmu nejak fundamentalne, kde se to MUSI zastavit, tak tehdy, kdy se stane 1 z 2 veci:
1. naklady na prevod BTC budou v dolarovym vyjadreni vyssi nez naklady na prevod penez v mezibankovnim styku (mozna diky anonymite muzou byt i vyssi)
2. Valuace BTC bude nekde na urovni CELOSVETOVYHO agregatu m0 nebo tak o plus minus 1-2 rady vedle

I kdyby mela byt valuace tech 21 mega future BTC 100x nizsi nez celosvetovej agregat m0, tak jsou to sileny prachy.

Nechce se mi to moc pocitat, ale rekneme ze na zaklade tohohle Struktura peněz v oběhu podle stavu ke dni 31.12.2012 - Česká národní banka je v cesku nejakych 400 miliard CZK hard penez (ok fiat whatever ), tj. 20 giga usd, ceska ekonomika muze bejt tak 0.3% svetovyho HDP, tj. celosvetove muze byt 6 bilionu USD v hard cash m0, co ma srovnani s BTC, rekneme ze budem brat jen tu setinu, to je 60 miliard USD

60 miliard / 20 milionu USD = 3000/1 (az 300K/1), tak to je dobry, tisicinasobek z toho uz clovek neudela... pisu jak mi mysl jela, nechce se mi to editovat, doufam ze nejsem nekde o 3 rady mimo

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[Orbital]

mimochodem v Brazilii se ekonomika zastavila, i kdyz ma diky rigidite byrokratickyho systemu silenou prezamestnanost a inflace dal leti nahoru

jisty je jen to, ze v dlouhodobym horizontu si ty veci vzdycky sednou, tj. inflace a exchange rate se nejak synchronizuji; zadrzeny urokovy miry vystreli, nabidka penez a inflace se taky srovna atd...<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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[Orbital]

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[gugatronic3]

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[Orbital]

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[gugatronic3]

Virtu
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MasterCard denies BitCoin card rumors, BitInstant says it's still on track -- Engadget

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[gugatronic3]

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[desolato]

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[elmagico72]

How-Know: Bitcoin - virtuálna mena - YouTube

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[Orbital]

How-Know: Bitcoin - virtuálna mena - YouTube

nevidel som z toho ani minutu, ale mozno to bude niekoho zaujimat a snad to video bude aj prospesne...

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[elmagico72]

no bozi

to video sa dostalo ku mne nahodne.. ma 80min /tolko casu nemam / no zaroven viem ze je tu thread venovany bitcoinu, tak mozno to niekoho zaujimat bude /osobne sa tejto problematike nevenujem, preto som to nevidel/.. tak na vysvetlenie<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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[Sklipkan]

No ja vidim tenhle problem. Cely ten trh bitcoinu ma v soucasne dobe hodnotu par stovek mega dolacu(no to sice nema, ale zjednodusene kdyz budu nasobit soucasnou trzni hodnotu jedne jednotky a pocet jednotek), ze jo? Pricemz dalsi jednotky pribyvaj pomalu a od jisteho okamziku vubec. Jenze na svete je strasne moc penez a pro lidi, kteri by uvazovali vstoupit do toho systemu pozdeji by to bylo extremne nevyhodne kvuli te omezene nabidce, proste by museli preplatit nejakyho soucasnyho vlastnika. Navic ono kdo vi co by udelaly vlady, kdyby se to vic rozsirilo, by zminili terorismus, pedofilii a tvrde postihovali kohokoliv, kdo s tim ma neco spolecnyho.<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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[Orbital]

No ja vidim tenhle problem. Cely ten trh bitcoinu ma v soucasne dobe hodnotu par stovek mega dolacu(no to sice nema, ale zjednodusene kdyz budu nasobit soucasnou trzni hodnotu jedne jednotky a pocet jednotek), ze jo? Pricemz dalsi jednotky pribyvaj pomalu a od jisteho okamziku vubec. Jenze na svete je strasne moc penez a pro lidi, kteri by uvazovali vstoupit do toho systemu pozdeji by to bylo extremne nevyhodne kvuli te omezene nabidce, proste by museli preplatit nejakyho soucasnyho vlastnika. Navic ono kdo vi co by udelaly vlady, kdyby se to vic rozsirilo, by zminili terorismus, pedofilii a tvrde postihovali kohokoliv, kdo s tim ma neco spolecnyho.

Prave ta ocekavana brutalni deflace muze lidi stejne tak i pritahnout.

Vlady mohou delat co chteji, ale bitcoin nezahubi. Zahubit ho muze jen mala likvidita. Je uplne jedno jestli se BTC bude platit naprimo, nebo to bude rezervni mena. Tyhle kryptomeny, kdyz to domyslis, mohou hrat roli sedy eminence a kvuli nim se mohou ty nase financni trhy zacit chovat uplne jinak (napriklad deflacne). Vubec neni jisty, jestli se neco takovyho uz nahodou davno nedeje.

Trochu bych to prirovnal treba k situaci, kdy na trhu jakoby pusobi monopolista, ale trh je otevreny, takze monopolista se nemuze chovat monopolne, protoze ho omezuje konkurence, ktera realne neexistuje, ale vznikla by, kdyby se tak monopolista choval. Staty maji takove monopoly na tisteni penez. Ale jejich mantinely pro monetarni nebo dokonce hospodarskou politiku jsou cim dal vice omezeny i diky (neexistujicim) kryptomenam a mnoha dalsim vlastnostem postinternetoveho financniho systemu. Tomuhle verim hodne a vicemene na tom stavim to jak vnimam ekonomicko-politickou realitu.<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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[Orbital]

prijde mi dost sileny nahazovat neco, co sam nevidim; takovej dost protiklad te zakladni idee fora - sdileni a trideni informaci

sdilet info, ktere nemam, ale nelze

samozrejme to video muze byt shit, nebo muze byt dobre, zhruba asi jako 1 z About 5,160,000 results

takhle se tusim vedou hospodsky debaty nasich tatiku, napriklad o sazeni nebo o tom internetu, ze

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