Bitcoin

[gugatronic3]

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[Orbital]

Ten clovek je mimo.

Trhu sice prospeje, ze skonci monopol, ale tohle je odvetvi, kde je jasny, ze se prirozenej monopol zopakuje. To, co je ted je velmi kratke obdobi.

A ohledne BTC, ekonomiky a dani to uz je uplna hovadina. Jedinej skutecnej duvod proc ma BTC nejakou value je ten, ze se lidi vyhnou regulacim, danim a vubec statu v p2p transakcich. Mozna do novin je hezke tohle rikat, ale v realu ten drive ne-statnich men je proste v tom, ze se lidi vyhnou danim a skryjou svoje prijmy.

Duvod proc to jednoho dne muze fungovat je ten, ze kapitalista ma dnes s byrokracii cim dal nakladnejsi problemy. Tohle je proste jednoduchy jako facka. BTC je tu kvuli anonymite a a ta se proste vyuzije v prospech jednotlivce ne ve prospech socialniho statu. Cist tyhle zvasty me vytaci asi jako cist kecy, ze hudebni nebo filmovej prumysl muze fungovat s legalizovanymi torenty. Hudebni a filmovej prumysl, ale i sportovni mega akce proste funguji jen diky tomu intelektualnimu IP monopolu.

Bud se ten monopol zrusi a nastane chaos (mem by se to treba libilo, ale 99% lidi, co by brutalne zchudli a nemohli se koukat na Pelisky a Ligu mistru, by se to asi nelibilo)
nebo se ten monopol nezrusi a bitcoin se nelegalizuje a pojede se dal ve schizofrenii jako ted a to je podle me reseni, k jakymu to smeruje. Na povrchu bude to, co se rika, ze je a pod povrchem skutecna free market economy otevrena vsem, co chapou a vyuziji o cem to je. A kolem toho facebook/twitter geek/mainstream sebranka, ktera tomu zadarmo udela jako vzdycky reklamu a vytvori prostredi pro ty, co na tom vydelaji.

Jde jen o to proste nebrat ty kecy toho pana moc vazne. Odkojenec korporaci - toho fakt nemuze napadnout nic jinyho, nez obchodovat s BTC a zajimat se o placeni dani. Zas ten tlak mainstreamu, co icelandovi sebral i poteseni z sexshopu, protoze si tam jdou koupit fancy dildo i mamky s kocarkama, neb se o tom docetly v internetovem magazinu.<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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[Rauuul]

Betfair otevřel sázku na Bitcoin, ale je tam nulová likvidita. http://sports.betfair.com/Index.do?m...x=1&origin=MRL<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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[Orbital]

s klidem lze brat vsechny sazky nad 500, pokud je kurz nad 500 a pod 500 pokud je pod 500

takova je uz povaha kurzu, ze sedi tam, kde ho trh ocekava, mommentalni kurz je 590

proste pri trznim kurzu >500 a sazce ze bude nad 500 za 2.02 je to primo dost vyrazna arbitraz, kde se vyplati shortovat ten kurz a sazet nad... je to primo arbmiddle 2.02 vs 2.0 na rozmezi 500-590 zjednodusene receno (shortovat BTC neni easy, problem je s reliabilitou BTC instrumentu, prevod BTC taky neni zadarmo atd)

tahle sazka ma velkej potencial se rozjet do milionu, protoze timhle se utvareni BTC kurzu prenese na finannce velmi stabilni instituci

kdybych mel cas tak se tim zacnu zabyvat, ale verim, ze trh si tu matematiku uvedomi relativne rychle<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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[elmagico72]

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[Orbital]

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[P998]

Po delší době zajímavá zpráva o Bitcoinu: Bitcoin Integration With PayPal Being 'Actively Considered' Says eBay CEO

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[Orbital]

tady je fakt zajimavy kolik jen zvazovani posune kurz
az prijde nejaka skutecne realna dobra zprava bude to asi masakr
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[LuiS_sk]

Tak Paypal je mokrý sen všetkých bagholders Bitcoinu, slovo práčka na peniaze by v tej chvíli dostalo úplně iný význam

Pomohlo by ak by za Bitcoiny a Altcoiny dalo vsádzať v niektorej známejšej SK...<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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[Orbital]

Znamejsi SK do toho prave nepujdou, pac by okamzite byly target vsech BTCbijcu.

Nadto jsou vsechny regulovane a ani nejakej srandaregulator tohle nepovoli. To je proste problem toho, jak roste byznys, ze jak se pocitaji naklady a vynosy, tak je hodne co ztratit a vsichni jsou proto konformni. Da se rict, ze to je vlastnost kapitalismu. Vubec nechapu treba ted ten hon na Google. Je to uplne megakorporace a je logicky, ze se chova jak se chova. Co je chyba u kazdy firmy - a vidim to ted docela jasne - ze kazda vsadi na rust. I kdyz neni tazenej dluhem, tak proste i od velmi mirnyho rustu se uplne stopnou nejaky inovace lidskyho kapitalu a proste ty lidi budou presne takovy jako okoli a tim i ta firma tenduje k bezne spolecenske kulture. A to je zase dany neduverou, kde proste se ty firme nevyplati investovat treba tisice hodin do uceni jednoho zamestnance, kdyz ten se pak muze kdykoliv sebrat a jit do hajzlu.

Jinak receno - pokud maji byt progresivnejsi korporace, musi se neco zmenit nekde uplne jinde. A i tam jinde se to musi vyplatit.<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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[LuiS_sk]

Preto som tam dal vsuvku o mokrých snoch

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[Orbital]

Paypal se "dobrovolne" vzdal gamblu pred 10ti lety a proto se serem se Skrillem
a dnes je Paypal Ebay

to by bylo neuveritelne -EV rozhodnuti, po kterem by beztak velmi brzy, cca. druhy den, prisla nabidka od FED, FBI a CIA dohromady, ktere by se nedalo odmitnout <div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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[gugatronic3]

2Orb: ja myslim, ze to je jen otazka casu... najmout dva 2 whiteHaty a BTC mastra a zabezpecit to, anebo to nechat na treti stranu to BTC procesorovani, anebo ty BTC vubec dlouho nedrzet a sazet tim, ze udelas depositoBet a stejne tak vyplatu a ty BTC ma porad jen klient... cim vic budou resitrikce/regulace, tak tim driv si nekdo uvedomi ze italove/franzouzi/amici/turci/... nejsou malej rybnik a nekdo s necim prijde a postavi si na tom byznys model... a to si to pak marathon, pinna,.. nenechaj libit a bude to standard...<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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[Orbital]

jde o to, kdo spusti lavinu, ze by tipsport

hele zcela subjektivne ti reknu jednu vec: ty vsecky zakazy v tech jmenovanych zemich a pomalu se k nim da pridat i Belgie a Nizozemi a Pobalti a Recko a exYugo... narusily i samotnej trh jako takovej a o to to je tezsi

vubec si nemyslim, ze by Fko a TS mely jasat z toho, co ted vyved Babis, byl to nakonec Bwin, kterej tu proklestil cestu k netovymu sazeni

no proste na trhu kde zmizeli internetovy sazkari to nebude lehke... plus i kdyz BTC je samozrejme jen takova sranda mena na prepociatavani, tak ty brany 3tich stran to budou mit hodne tezke

ten byznys jsem chtel delat, ale napad prisel pozde, urcite to bude velmi psychicky narocny, pac procesori budou odpadavat<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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[gugatronic3]

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