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[Orbital]

Toto sa mi moc nelubi ...


"Keby z hazardných hier platili dane aj ich hráči, štátu by to mohlo podľa štúdie ekonómov priniesť asi 50 miliónov eur."


Je to z clanku na sme.sk (odstavec: "Za hazard 50 milionov ?):


Program Smeru: Minim


Hajzli, vsetko rozkradli, uz nevedia kde zobrat chybajuce prostriedky. MP, dan z vyhry, potom stavkove daju rovinu 1.7 / 1.7, tam fakt potom budu tipovat len totalni dementi ...





Aj ked tam (SR) uz 10 rokov nezijem, keby sa im to zdanenie nejak podarilo zapasovat do vyhernych tiketov - este viac to devastuje pripadne "value".

A taky priklad moze byt nakazlivy (CR by zrejme skoro skopirovala).

To je furt dokola. Az bude kurzova hladina 1.7 1.7 a az bude DPH 50%, tak dojde k precvaknuti systemu. Dane se prestanou platit uplne, gamblovat se taky oficialne prestane jako ve Francii a nekde vzniknou penize, ktere nelze kontrolovat (technologie je 100% ready) a nekde vzniknou sazkovky, ktery nepujde chytit. Jenze tak daleko to ani nedojde, system se zhrouti driv. Ale do te doby se bude snazit... tady neni vubec prostor pro to, aby to bylo jinak, vubec se nemusime divit, co to politici zase vymysli za kokotiny. Budou zdanovat gambling, budou zvysovat DPh, budou zvtsovat dane z nemovitosti, budou odirat vsechno, co vubec pujde...<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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[johnny]

Oni to podla mna myslia tak ze stavkari by mali odvadzat klasicke dane z prijmu pokial teda su v pluse. Lenze to nejde bez toho aby mali prehlad o kazdom stavkovom ucte hraca, hoci pri Smere by som sa ani nedivil keby aj toto chcel vediet <div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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[Hanz_11]

johnny: v pohadkovem svete by to mozna fungovalo a sazeni by byla zivnost. ale v realite to neklapne.

Orbital: Budou zdanovat gambling, budou zvysovat DPh, budou zvtsovat dane z nemovitosti, budou odirat vsechno, co vubec pujde...

Budou odirat vsechny mimo sebe a svoje kamarady lobisty, vlivne podnikatele, apod.. Zvysi si imunitu a zajisti dozivotni renty.<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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[1]

Oni to podla mna myslia tak ze stavkari by mali odvadzat klasicke dane z prijmu pokial teda su v pluse. Lenze to nejde bez toho aby mali prehlad o kazdom stavkovom ucte hraca, hoci pri Smere by som sa ani nedivil keby aj toto chcel vediet

Urcite to takto nemyslia. To je proste nerealizovatelne ...

Daleko jednoduchsie je priamo "naflakat" tu dan do kazdeho vyherneho tiketu. Ak prehras - neplatis (samozrejme) nic - "len" prehras vklad.

Ale ak vyhras - dostanes vyhru vyplatenu minus nejaka ta dan - uz priamo strhnuta na tikete. Zial, technicky je to velmi jednoduche. Len neviem, kto by im tam uz potom tipoval ...<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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[2299]

Zivnost na sazeni by byla dobra Z vyhranych tiketu zaplatis dan a prohrany si odepises z dani To by byli teprve zisky <div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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[Hanz_11]

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[johnny]

Zivnost na sazeni by byla dobra Z vyhranych tiketu zaplatis dan a prohrany si odepises z dani To by byli teprve zisky

A kazdy stavkujuci by sa musel povinne nahlasit na zivnostenskom urade
Ale teda pokial to myslia tak ze pre tuzemske stavkove pridaju k MP dalsi poplatok a udrzia rovinu na tej urovni kde je tak realne im naozaj uz neostanu ziadni klienti. Takto zdanena rovina bude niekde na urovni 1.50-1.50, mozno aj nizsie <div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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[pivo]

Dnes by to malo ist tiez. Ak firma tipne a vyhra, tak podla mna je to zhodnotenie majetku firmy, co by sa malo priznat a zdanit. Samozrejme, naklad na zhodnotenie majetku (dosiahnutie zisku) je vklad (stavka), takze ak ICO vsadi prachy do SK, mohlo by to ist odpisat z dani. Ved ked ICO niekam zainvestuje a investicia je stratova, tak sa majetok znizil. Je to pritiahnute za vlasy, ale nejaka finta by sa mala dat najst.<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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[pivo]

Celkom by ma zaujimal aj nazor Corteza, ci napr. v Anglicku (alebo ktorejkolvek inej krajine) ak firma stavkuje na BF, ci to je danovo uznatelny vydavok - myslim tym prehru.<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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[Orbital]

Budou odirat vsechny mimo sebe a svoje kamarady lobisty, vlivne podnikatele, apod.. Zvysi si imunitu a zajisti dozivotni renty.

Tak to je preci "normalni". Proste kazdy se stara sam o sebe. Ze ten celek neni moc funkcni je jasne. Ted je otazka jak z toho ven: idioti veri, ze se jim tohle vsechno podari po staletich neuspechu zmenit. Podle me je naopak potreba jit tomu naproti a jelikoz my vsichni jsme "spodina", tak se musime zacit chovat uplne stejne vuci systemu a vydrzet byt aspon nejak s lidma. Zatim jsme servilni vuci systemu a na lidi kolem serem uplne stejne jako ti nahore.<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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[Orbital]

Celkom by ma zaujimal aj nazor Corteza, ci napr. v Anglicku (alebo ktorejkolvek inej krajine) ak firma stavkuje na BF, ci to je danovo uznatelny vydavok - myslim tym prehru.

Co jsem pochopil, tak na tohle tam normalne funguji danovi poradci. Anglie je pro profi sazkare fakt neprijemna zeme, pac system tam je schopen pohltit i tyhle sede casti ekonomiky. Cesko je skutecne stale velmi betting-friendly zeme, resp pro-bettors-friendly. Podle me za to prenesene fakt vdecime tem mistnim oligopolum Sazka-Tipsport-Chance a te uzavrenosti vuci sazkam z vnejsku. Nejak to pro sazkare vytvari vzduchovou kapsu.

Ruku na srdce, kdo by chtel na zivnostaku cekat s instalaterem a investicnim poradcem na lejstra?<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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[pivo]

No ja ked tak nad tym uvazujem, tak by som to velmi rad robil na ICO. Samozrejme sro/a.s., pricom vobec sa nebranim zahranicnej firme. Cele to stoji a pada na tom, ci prehru niektory stat akceptuje ako danovy naklad. Ak nie, tak to straca zmysel.<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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[Orbital]

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[pivo]

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[Sklipkan]

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