wallets & markets

založil jsem si kraken a poloniex. Na Kraken je možnost poslat EURa z banky, ale já mam je CZK účet.
Nejsou tam ale ty meny o kterých ted psal Orbital, tak jsem si udělal i ten Poloniex. Tam jsem zase našel jen moznost depositu kryptomen. I když je tam napsanej limit 2k USD, deposit dolarum tam nikde nevidím.
Jen USDT.
Tak jsem si udělal jeste wallet na blockchainu, když jde nasel nějakou informaci, ze ji můžu nabít pres SKRILL. Což by se mi dost líbilo, než si zakládat účet v německé bance.
Děláte to tak někdo nebo je blbost?

Skrill moneybookers to Bitcoin ⋆ Exchanger-bitcoin

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No. Jeste ze ses zeptal. Jinak asi jeste trochu vic cti fora.

Obecne jedna rada od cloveka, co posraldost veci, ale melo to spolecnyho jmenovatele, kterej byla presne ta situace, ve ktery jsi ted ty: lenost.

EUR ucet, zvlast kdyz mas vydelavaci menu EUR (patrne) je nutnost. Nevim jak moc vydelavas na Skrillu nebo naopak v Cesku CZK, takze do detailu ti neporadim, co je nejlepsi. Ale EUR ucty nabizi uz vetsina retail bank v Cesku a to vcetne SEPA plateb. Koneckoncu i kdyz posles ty CZK tak se na ty EURa v nejakym nevyhodnym kurzu a s vetsim poplatkem prekonvertuji, ale asi te ta 1 razovka bude stat min nez transakcni naklady spojeny se zrizenim EUR uctu (ackoliv v mnoha CZ bankach je to zalezitost asi 3 kliknuti). Neni dovod v Cesku i jinde nemit vic uctu, a to zvlast pro lidi co maji maly bank alevny cas a to za podminky, ze ty ucty jsou zadara.

Jet do Nemecka samozrejme je nejlepsi, ale ani to neni nutny. Nekolik Rakouskych a Nemeckych bank ma pobocky primo v Cesku, tj ten zahranicni ucet si udelas tam. Je ale dulezity nevybrat nejakou vylozene bitcoin haterskou banku (jakakoliv pobocka Raifky napriklad nebo i Zuno).

Dale: Poloniex je hub alcoinu, ten jsi vybral dobre, tam je nejvic likvidity, ale oni samozrejme jsou ciste kryptomenova burza. Neprovozuji fiat. Diky tomu muzou byt uplne deregulovani. Takze bitcoin powered. Potrebujes btc, abys nakoupil altcoiny. A za btc (nebo jiny altcoin) budes pripadne i prodavat. Tzn.cesta je fiat -> fiat burza to BTc -> poloniex

No a v neposledni rade: pokud si chces zabit Skrill, kterej zjevne vubec nepotrebujes, tak pres nej zasadne obchoduj kryptomeny a delej vsechno co je proti TOS. To bude uplne the best.
Kupovat po Skrillu neco co je zakazany a pak az to nedostanes se toho domahat pres ty jejich tikety. Win-win: zavrou ti ucet a prachy neuvidis a v tescu nebudes skladat mrkve ale cistit hajzly.
No a kdyz uz jsi takovej silenec, ze teda budes nakupovat altcoiny a do toho musis on the top pouzivat skrill, tak to prosim udelej pres nejakej obviuos scam site (a negugli u toho https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=947622.0 ). V zadnym pripade nepouzivej localbitcoins, kde maji propracovany system reputaci i pro prodejce pres Skrill, Neteller, Paypal. Je samozrejme mnohem lepsi zavrit oci a kliknout v Googlu.

Radsi pozornuju, ze v tomhle postu sem pouzil dost ironie v ramci preservace svyho psychickyho zdravi. Musis ji rozkodovat. Ale radsi sem napis co se teda budes chystat delat. Ztratit ty prachy driv nez za ne nakoupis ty altcoiny, co se pak vypari, by byla skoda.<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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Diky za rady a nasmerovani.
Nasel jsem na svym ERA uctu moznost zaslani EUR pomoci SEPA platby. Chtel bych posilat max XXX eur, takze to by mohli nechat bez povsimnuti.

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To urcite nechaji a nema smysl to ani nijak vymyslet ohledne horsiho kurzu pro ty drobne. Pro vetsi penize je mozny si otevrit EUR ucet zadara tusim ve Fio, Zuno, Equa i Airbank a nadotovat to nekde pres forex nebo exchange.cz a pak poslat SEPU. CSOB je jedna z nejlepsich bank v Cesku. Ty to zajimat nebude, pokud vylozene kraken neni na nejakym shitlistu.<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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Původně odeslal Orbital

To urcite nechaji a nema smysl to ani nijak vymyslet ohledne horsiho kurzu pro ty drobne. Pro vetsi penize je mozny si otevrit EUR ucet zadara tusim ve Fio, Zuno, Equa i Airbank a nadotovat to nekde pres forex nebo exchange.cz a pak poslat SEPU. CSOB je jedna z nejlepsich bank v Cesku. Ty to zajimat nebude, pokud vylozene kraken neni na nejakym shitlistu.

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V pohode banky (neresi): Fio, CSOB/Era, Unicreditbank, Airbank, Mbank, Equa

Relativne v pohode banky (upozorni, ze transakce se tyka kryptomeny a zpracuji ji): Moneta (puvodne GE Money), Komercni banka

Byl bych opatrny banky (jsou male a muzou brat AML dost vazne): Sberbank, Creditas, Oberbank

VELKE NE-E banky (blokuji transakce): Raiffeisenbank, zrusena Zuno, Tatrabanka SK, Paysera<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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Zrovna jak sem psal o tom vyseru, tak ta banka co vysira je z toho prvniho radku.<div style="font-size: xx-small;color: #0000ff;display: inline-block;text-align: center;width: 100%;">
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airbank je ok? mne minule teda neslo...
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Původně odeslal gugatronic3

airbank je ok? mne minule teda neslo...
csas?

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Sporitelna by mela byt v pohode, je tak velka, ze Bitcoin z 99 % neresi... A paradoxne i kdyz je to takovy moloch, tak u Sporitelny ma ucty spoustu ruznych zahranicnich firem, offshore firem, dokonce jedna hodne velka "BTC banka", ktere pres to toci desitky a stovky milionu, takze je nejake drobne nezajimaji. Pokud teda zrovna nejsi autor nejakeho cryptolockeru a nechces jednorazovy cashout par tisic bitcoinu, ale to by byl problem uz driv na smenarne a ne az v bance. :)

Airbank se omlouvam, doslo mi ze oni transakce preposilaji pres Raiffeisenbank, takze stejny problem, jaky s tim maji Rakusaci ze skupiny RB.
Mimochodem i kdyz Rakousko je pitoma zeme, tak ted si koupis na kazde rakouske poste krypto: https://news.bitcoin.com/bitcoin-eth...-post-offices/

I kdyz to neni intuitivni, tak bych se nebal prave tech velkych bank typu CSOB, Komercka, Sporitelna, protoze ty jsou zvykle na ledacos. Naopak kdyby sis vybral ze smenarny penize do nejake divne banky typu Oberbank tak myslim, ze se tam kopou do zadku, takze by to zpusobilo nejvetsi pozdvizeni na posledni mesic.

Dalsi indikator, kterym bych se ridil, je kouknout na banku, kterou pouziva simplecoin.cz. Ti podle me musi byt na policii jako doma, takze vedi, ktera banka dela problemy a ktera ne.
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chci se regnout na bitfinex a chcou tam u cisla area code... u myho kraje je vic moznosti, nevite prosim, jak muzu zjistit ktery mam? nikde to v profilu od o2 nevidim... diky


Area Codes (by region):
Landline numbers only!
Prague (Praha) 2, 31, 32 Liberecky 48 Stredocesky 2, 31, 32
Jihocesky 38, 39 Moravskoslezsky 55, 59 Ustecky 41, 47
Jihomoravsky 51, 53, 54 Olomoucky 58 Vysocina 56
Karlovarsky 35 Pardubicky 46 Zlinsky 57
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Landline numbers only!

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